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Steph schools the rook

Steph schools the rook

laidbackdrew

He can learn from the Looney school of guarding smalls. Hands up and don’t leave your feet


MotoMkali

Only leave your feet if it is a long closeout. Otherwise stay grounded and make them shoot without a clean Los.


laidbackdrew

Even on a long close out, you should try and run by on the shooting hand side. If you jump they’ll still bait you into a foul nowadays


MotoMkali

Whilst that is true to an extent the new rules should prevent that. And jumping means you block Los earlier and can maybe get a block.


laidbackdrew

I just feel like there is a higher likelihood that you foul them than get a block when you jump at a jump shooter


MotoMkali

Well slightly. That's why don't you go straight at them isn't it. And with new no hanging your legs out rule a lot more of them will just be cleaner contests.


laidbackdrew

Of course you want to jump straight up, but verticality is easier when you’re contesting at the rim. Running full speed on a long closeout and jumping straight up is much easier said than done, Especially for a big. It’s a lot of momentum to stop Also, the kick out rule is nothing new.


MotoMkali

I miswrote I meant you don't jump straight at them. As in you go past. Draymond does it a lot.


pcloadletter2742

I just close out and jump past them, but my hand goes toward the ball. If im right up on them & i jump, it's straight up, with my arm anticipating the shot trajectory. I never foul & i bring good shooters' effectiveness down. There are other situational things to take into account, where you might not jump at all, or you actually jump opposite their shooting hand if they're a real driving threat, too, so you don't land on them when they go to drive, instead. And also faking the sprint/jump closeout when you know they're likely to fake & drive. It freezes their shot, but then you don't jump and you set up for their drive. At that point you take them from 2 or 3 options back to square one. One thing that kills me with a lot of people is over closing, and getting blown by or still giving up an open shot, or fouling. Giannis Antetokounmpo was really bad about that his first 2 or 3 years, and he'd end up giving up a drive, give & go if the guy had already lost his dribble, or an open 3 with Giannis standing out of bounds behind the guy. Or further help would come to help him, and it'd be a pass for an open layup/dunk. You gotta pick up on tendencies, anticipate, & play the odds. There are plenty of gifted & talented players all over. The mental aspect of even simple things can be a separator. There is a time, spot, & situation to jump, and there are also those not to jump.


RingSea5492

Whilst


MotoMkali

Whilst what?


Redditpede

> Only leave your feet if it is a long closeout. Otherwise stay grounded and make them shoot without a clean Yall don't really hoop do you. Big difference between a closeout with a hand in your face vs none. Looney stays grounded because he can't jump much to begin with not because it's the optimal way of playing defense. Or are we going to tell Draymond to play defense like Looney because he actually puts physical and psychological pressure when contesting shots? Just because you guys saw dumb rookie closeouts by Wiseman doesn't mean that closeouts are a bad high risk tactic in basketball lmao.


MotoMkali

Nirmal closeouts you can get a hand in the face without leaving the ground. Which is also how Dray and Klay defend. So idk maybe you should actually watch basketball


Redditpede

> Which is also how Dray and Klay defend. You think Draymond and Klay don't jump on vast majority of contests? Imagine not watching any gameplay footage and calling yourself a Warriors fan. Also jumping on a long closeout is where fouls tend to happen. Facepalm


MotoMkali

Like they get barely off the floor not the way Kuminga did for instance. And you fly by on long closeouts you aren't trying to hit them. And yes fouls occur because a long closeout is the hardest one to deal with.


Redditpede

> Nirmal closeouts you can get a hand in the face without leaving the ground.


MotoMkali

Well. I guess you wouldn't describe them as closeouts, just a normal contest.


canyouread7

It's kinda counterintuitive, or at least the way we were taught. I was always taught to jump out at shooters (who didn't have their dribble anymore), shooting hand side, and keep running in case they missed for an easy pass and lay.


MotionAction

This only works if you are tall and/or long wingspan with good footwork to bother a shooter.


MotoMkali

Yeah, which Kuminga is.


BlankVoid2979

pretty sure 50% of the reason Loon isnt jumping is because his old ass body isnt capable of jumping


lalag1

Agreed, I’m glad him and iggy are sticking around for one more season they can teach our youngsters a lot.


TylerDurdensAlterEgo

No joke. Looney should be Wiseman and Kuminga's instructor until they learn not over-react to every fake


TrackRelevant

Thinking steph is shooting a three and that you should contest isn't an overreaction. Otherwise, yes


Redditpede

That's because Looney doesn't have any athleticism like Kuminga/ Wiseman/ Oubre. I guess I'm the only one that notices everyone cooking Looney with jumpshots because he doesn't want to get close to them and gives them easy uncontested shots.


typesett

Learn now baby


Dodgerssuckballs

Kept him inside the arc to hold him to 2 points, against Steph I think that counts as good D


Curious_Survey2651

Long 2


pixelsxpixels

The stance and movement was good, just a bit jump happy.


asBad_asItGets

Leapers leap!


pcloadletter2742

Don't my knees know it now...


joe-b-nguyen

JK and Moody are gonna learn a lot by getting cooked by the chef on the daily. Guarding other NBA players should seem easier after that.


TrackRelevant

Most players can't hit pump fake threes so that was actually good defense. Steph is just unstoppable. But, yes, he's going to sharpen the youth


jiunit2491

I can’t wait for the new season! Curry going for MVP!


WholeLottaThose

Travel


HeyyyKoolAid

Definitely a travel


goxieqian

Absolutely!


Donk3y_Brolic

Yup


PristineDecision

Once you jump, you lost regardless on if the shot is made or not.


DnB925Art

The ol' fakeroo. and fly by


maccchicken

where you get this video my g


SeekingSignificance

Bleacher report posted it on IG


GucciGaropp

Steph 100% travelled.


HotTakesVendor

Every NBA move is a travel tbh


ry690

if they start calling that a travel we're losing a lot of games


TrackRelevant

He doesn't normally do that. They call it when he travels, unlike harden


K00ls0x

He usually doesn’t shuffle his feet like he did here


OlorinDK

Good clip, good opportunity to learn. What’s a bit funny to me is that this is almost like Steph is doing one of his routine drills. Kuminga just happens to be there :)


SoundBurger

Steph travels


mragentm

Definitely a travel although if he did this in a real nba game that’s a play on.


elpeezey

JK held him to two.. that’s a win


n00b2k

need to see more of this.....can you drop the link op?


Mu17inItOver

95.7 the Game Twitter links to this dude https://twitter.com/Gardas111/status/1444287231531929609?s=20


89samhsbr_

Steph: “and never forget it”


buyo1797

Yeah stay down JK


sugarwax1

Kuminga showing those Jordan Bell faked out skills.


asBad_asItGets

Pshh. The light skin dude had a foot on the line. Couldn't even step it back for 3. Why'd we draft this dude???


pcloadletter2742

Gonna be a lot of missed sarcasm, here.


bigatjoon

What a bust /s


senorpuma

Travels twice. I don’t understand how someone so good can be so sloppy with the basic aspects of the game. It ain’t just Steph is the entire league. It would be like if MLB players routinely kinda come close to stepping on the bag or home plate but don’t touch it. Or on defense a player misses a tag but comes close so they still count them out. NBA is the only professional sports league where the rules are bent and broken compared to the lower levels. Edit: downvote away but I ain’t wrong.


Lavinesanity

Lowkey agree Every rec league player is calling that travel immediately, it's really obvious


KoreanProdigy17

Came here to see if this was mentioned. While he did travel twice, first one doesn't matter as he's just establishing a pivot foot, but the second one does matter imo as he plants his right, then picks it up after the fake. Although it's actually hard to tell if his left actually left the ground on the fake.


senorpuma

See, I don’t understand why the first one “doesn’t matter”. You don’t get to move your pivot foot to “establish it”. It is established once you have possession of the ball - when you then move a foot, the other is your pivot foot. You don’t get to move both feet.


KoreanProdigy17

You're totally right according to the rules of basketball. It doesn't matter... as much. It probably should matter more. But in the grand scheme of the game, picking a pivot foot in that stance has very little if any affect on the outcome of the game, while the second travel DID in fact affect his shot so that one matters more.


zdachmann

Nobody cares about traveling.


InfernoLinkZ

I understand where you're coming from


pcloadletter2742

Nobody watches baseball. Shut up.


senorpuma

I don’t watch baseball either. But I’m not wrong.


K00ls0x

You are wrong though because he’s only traveled once and Steph isn’t sloppy. Sometimes he’s careless with his passes but that doesn’t make him any less of a player.


cantindajobinus

he just nervous


Noiih

hehehehe


geekyfreakyman

Curry is so smooth, it's beautiful


warriors1502

Similar to when steph pump fake jaylen brown few years ago but steph trash talked jaylen brown at that moment hahaha


TrackRelevant

That's the move he put in Jalen green's eye when he was talking too much


linkejian

I mean he made Steph travel so… good D


peter_park_here

This is the NBA so I get this is actual schooling but damn - it looks like Steph traveled with that right foot picking up the ball.


PartyKrill

All kinds of travel tho. Love Steph still tho


hotgur1

Also gotta remember this is steph curry, kid is what 18? Just joined the league. To me it’ll only help him grow as a defender.


starkpwnsyou

He’d prolly improve his defense pretty quickly if he always tries to guard Steph in practice


BalloonShip

He took a 2 not a 3. I’d say that was elite D.


Redditpede

Unfortunately two travels here and I wish they didn't post this at all because it makes Curry look bad.


K00ls0x

False


Nghbrhd_slacker87

Rare footage of Kuminga down in a Defensive stance lol... Didn't stand a chance either way